How to Stop AIDS?

[Zach]

What can WE do to stop one of the leading problems of the earth?

[darkme]

hmm! well education is pretty much the key!

[fathiamar]

I agree with noor here. Education.

Last time, i have an idea on how to stop aids from spreading. Its kinda stupid and cruel, and no human being would actually agree with me on this, but let me just share it here. We put all of them hiv infected person on a secluded island. Where they can actually do what they want there, and get free medication. Just on the island. So that they wont spread the virus. Its not to discriminate, but its the only way that i think could be done to kill the virus. When the virus infected a human being, the human itself is the virus.

The other way is to kill those infected with HIV. Just like birds that they kill when the birds got infected by avian flu. They shot the birds and mass bury them altogether. We get all the infected people with HIV virus, keep them together and kill them all. The virus will just die like that. We dont have to worry about it anymore. Right?

You guys dont have to agree with me on this. Just a sarcastic thoughts.

[AK]

The idea sounds cruel and discriminatory as well.But frankly speaking, since we don't have any treatment available for AIDS and people aren't ready to practise abstinence, I think what you said is right.Sadly, its the only solution available for now to eliminate AIDS.

We wouldn't have to kill anyone if only people infected with AIDS come out and actually admit that they have AIDS.The worst part is that some people (as in India) aren't even aware that they've been infected with AIDS!
The best solution is abstinence and another one is using protection during sex.And if people aren't ready to do that, then what Fathi has said, will have to be done.

Education and awareness is the key alright, but they aren't reaching the masses and in places where these are available, the masses aren't availing them.People are so hypocritical!They will indulge in sex but they aren't ready to talk or listen about it!!

Its a dismal state of things out there....

P.S. - Sorry for sounding so irritated. I apologise if I've said something wrong.I was feeling quite hopeless about this issue...

[darkme]

yup I agree with Anu here! I mean the solution is pretty much obvious and still very less is being done in that regard, govs. aren't doin much and they know that they can start educating ppl!

[fathiamar]

For Asia-Pacific youth, the most at risk are those engaged in commercial sex and those injecting illicit drugs. Well, in a very simple english, bad people is the most at risk. As they are bad people, why should we educate them? It's not about HIV/AIDS anymore, its about moral values. Why the hell do they get AIDS? Because they got involved with the devil. A friend of the devil. Or anything. Anyway. Its some kind of a punishment for them to get involved with such things. Sorry. Kinda getting overboard here.

I'm not talking about those in Africa or India, where they normally dont know that they are infected with the virus. But yeah. Education is the best remedy for those people (People that dont know about HIV/AIDS). But for the people that know about it but still got infected by it? I will just say "There you go. Play with the devil again!"

Sorry.

[AK]

fathiamar said:

For Asia-Pacific youth, the most at risk are those engaged in commercial sex and those injecting illicit drugs. Well, in a very simple english, bad people is the most at risk. As they are bad people, why should we educate them? It's not about HIV/AIDS anymore, its about moral values. Why the hell do they get AIDS? Because they got involved with the devil. A friend of the devil. Or anything. Anyway. Its some kind of a punishment for them to get involved with such things. Sorry. Kinda getting overboard here.

I'm not talking about those in Africa or India, where they normally dont know that they are infected with the virus. But yeah. Education is the best remedy for those people (People that dont know about HIV/AIDS). But for the people that know about it but still got infected by it? I will just say "There you go. Play with the devil again!"

Sorry.

Again, I agree.

[AK]

darkme said:

yup I agree with Anu here! I mean the solution is pretty much obvious and still very less is being done in that regard, govs. aren't doin much and they know that they can start educating ppl!

Exactly!That's the main problem!I don't know when will they do something in this regard...
The government always sucks!!

[darkme]

I second that Anu!! governments SUCK as u said

[AK]

darkme said:

I second that Anu!! governments SUCK as u said

Ah...!Its the same story everywhere...

I don't know when this dismal picture will change...

[nibir]

religion can be an institution--for all the religion says to be somthing like .HOLY..........so where education is not reaching religious leaders can do a lot and therefore religious leaders should be empowerd.

[darkme]

huh? I didn't get wat u were trying to tell us Nibir, I mean wat does educating religious leaders have to do with fighting HIV? plz do explain

[winmsn]

fathiamar said:

The other way is to kill those infected with HIV. Just like birds that they kill when the birds got infected by avian flu. They shot the birds and mass bury them altogether. We get all the infected people with HIV virus, keep them together and kill them all. The virus will just die like that. We dont have to worry about it anymore. Right?

Killing people just because they have a certain type of disease is extreme. That would be treating humans as animals. Frankly, that wouldn't really have much of an effect, it would probabally come back.

[AK]

nibir said:

religion can be an institution--for all the religion says to be somthing like .HOLY..........so where education is not reaching religious leaders can do a lot and therefore religious leaders should be empowerd.

Exactly!That's really very important.These religious leaders have many followers and people take their words and actions very seriously.If our religious leaders are educated about HIV/AIDS, then they can be engaged in educating the masses about this issue and involved in this fight against AIDS.
Religion and religius leaders are taken very seriously by the ppl, esp., in countries like India.Most people believe and follow every word of these religious leaders.And if the fight against AIDS gets a touch (I mean the support) of religion, then it'll gain tremendous momentum!

I hope Noor, you can now understand what Nibir wanted to say.

[fathiamar]

Not only religious teacher. Rock stars, hiphop stars, any artistes, should really help in educating HIV/AIDS. They should begin by being a good role model first though.

[darkme]

yes I got it now! and ya I think that wud rilly help ;D

[AK]

fathiamar said:

Not only religious teacher. Rock stars, hiphop stars, any artistes, should really help in educating HIV/AIDS. They should begin by being a good role model first though.

Yes yes you're right Amar! We need good role models for educating ppl and raising awareness.Be it religious leaders or movie stars.

[AK]

darkme said:

yes I got it now! and ya I think that wud rilly help ;D

Good that you got it now!You're a good student, Noor!Full marks to you!

[nairobian]

anu1789 said:

fathiamar said:

Not only religious teacher. Rock stars, hiphop stars, any artistes, should really help in educating HIV/AIDS. They should begin by being a good role model first though.

Yes yes you're right Amar! We need good role models for educating ppl and raising awareness.Be it religious leaders or movie stars.

but with celebrities, people won't pay attention.. A small percent do, but others just shake it off. I mean, honestly, people are tired of hearing Bono going on about stuff, or hearing about celebrities adopting kids from third-world countries.. If indeed celebrities are involved, they should do it like they mean it, not just some means of gaining popularity..

Ohh and Amar, I think your idea though cruel, is pretty smart.. I mean.. No offense to anyone who is infected with it, but they didn't use the resources provided. No matter how much we whine about no education out there, there's always education about it. Otherwise how would we know about it? They're just ignoring the education cuz they don't wanna accept that it does exist, and they might have it cuz they'll be shunned by their community. And who, honestly, wouldn't care if the only people they knew hated them with a vengeance and thought they were filth? Its partly their fault. And partly not.

teh government will stop sucking when people like us who are aware that the present government sucks become the government. Because we have an idea (perhaps biased, but an idea nevertheless) of what they're doing wrong. Maybe we can make a diff..

And someone said something about Amar's idea making us being treated like animals.. First off, I do think we're animals.. kinda.. aren't we? And doesn't that 'treated like animals' phrase make it sound like its alright to treat animals less than humans? That's not right.. Is it?

[[honestly apologize if this post sounds cynical or something.. i'm kinda having a horible headache and have had five paracetamol things so my mind could be a little abnormal.. but i needed to reply cuz this is a very important topic]]

[alyssamilanofan]

nairobian said:

anu1789 said:

Yes yes you're right Amar! We need good role models for educating ppl and raising awareness.Be it religious leaders or movie stars.

but with celebrities, people won't pay attention.. A small percent do, but others just shake it off. I mean, honestly, people are tired of hearing Bono going on about stuff, or hearing about celebrities adopting kids from third-world countries.. If indeed celebrities are involved, they should do it like they mean it, not just some means of gaining popularity..

Ohh and Amar, I think your idea though cruel, is pretty smart.. I mean.. No offense to anyone who is infected with it, but they didn't use the resources provided. No matter how much we whine about no education out there, there's always education about it. Otherwise how would we know about it? They're just ignoring the education cuz they don't wanna accept that it does exist, and they might have it cuz they'll be shunned by their community. And who, honestly, wouldn't care if the only people they knew hated them with a vengeance and thought they were filth? Its partly their fault. And partly not.

teh government will stop sucking when people like us who are aware that the present government sucks become the government. Because we have an idea (perhaps biased, but an idea nevertheless) of what they're doing wrong. Maybe we can make a diff..

And someone said something about Amar's idea making us being treated like animals.. First off, I do think we're animals.. kinda.. aren't we? And doesn't that 'treated like animals' phrase make it sound like its alright to treat animals less than humans? That's not right.. Is it?

[[honestly apologize if this post sounds cynical or something.. i'm kinda having a horible headache and have had five paracetamol things so my mind could be a little abnormal.. but i needed to reply cuz this is a very important topic]]

We're actually animals as well, scientifically we are. So yeah you're right about that, we people just like we're more intelligent than other spicies, but I don't think we are. That we have electricity doesn't we're smarter or anything.
But about the celebrities you're right, they have a voice more people hear, if those people do anything with it is a different topic, but I think if those celebrities would really help in the 'cause and do something themselves that would make a big difference, than people will listen. It's the same with my role model, she's ambassador for UNICEF, and a project about tropical diseases, a childrens hospital in LA, Millennium campaign, PETA and way more, she went on fieldtrips with UNICEF, she's been to Angola and India and a lot of places in the US, for instance when she went to Angola, she did the same thing those other unicef people did as well,she detonated landmines and went to get an aids test to let people see that it's nothing to be ashamed for to get a test, giving kids vitamine shots, food, giving advise and educational lectures about UNICEF and there work that sort of things if more celebs would do that, more people would really respect them and listen when they make such statements. Alyssa once said: There's no point in being a celeberity when you don't do anything with it, when you won't use your voice.

Oh there's on thing I don't exactly agree with, there might be some education in those countries but you're dealing with a sort of peer pressure on a very large scale, you deal with religion and people that are in a high rang and are against those educations and resources to prevent, who say that getting a test is something to be ashamed of. So a lot of times it's to easy to say that they could have used the resources because a lot of women for example can't use condoms or stuff like that because their husbands are against it and won't tolerate it. It's to easy to say it's their own fault.