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Post by alyssamilanofan on Jan 3, 2008 8:54:05 GMT -6
Hey
the pre-elections start in Iowa and I had some questions about it..
Why do they start in Iowa? And why can't all the states vote at the same time, why is it on sperate days? when does your state vote?
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Post by Zach on Jan 3, 2008 12:57:07 GMT -6
Great question! Well, I was listening to something about this on the radio, and I guess its better to make the candidates focus on winning one state. Here's the complete FYI (sorry I don't know enough about it): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucusMy state votes on February 19th.
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Post by alyssamilanofan on Jan 4, 2008 8:24:10 GMT -6
thxn Zach very interesting! That's my mothers b-day btw
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Post by Zach on Jan 4, 2008 16:34:25 GMT -6
Really? Cool Just to let everyone know; Barack Obama (Democrat) and Mike Huckabee (Republican) won the Iowa caucus. But, it's only one out of 50 states Lots more election news to come!
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Post by alyssamilanofan on Jan 9, 2008 3:17:22 GMT -6
New Hampshire:
Democrates: Hillary Clinton 39%, Barack Obama 37%, John Edwards 17% en Bill Richardson 5%. Republicans: John McCain 37%, Mitt Romney 32%, Mike Huckabee 11% en Rudy Giuliani 9%.
It's going to be a tight race!! I'm still favoring Hillary slightly over Obama.. I think both are great candidates but I'm leaning more towards Hillary.. Obama's got Oprah's support though which is a very good thing for his campaign..
There's just one thing bugging me, I think it's great that he wants to make it one US but there is still some racism but he ignores it completely.. That's something I don't get..
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Post by Zach on Jan 9, 2008 17:06:32 GMT -6
There's just one thing bugging me, I think it's great that he wants to make it one US but there is still some racism but he ignores it completely.. That's something I don't get.. What do you mean? I'm actually happy Hillary won last night; it will make the race closer, and more interesting
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Post by alyssamilanofan on Jan 10, 2008 11:45:58 GMT -6
well in general I've seen this documentary about Obama and he says there isn't a white America there isn't a black America there is the US of A.. In a way he says there's no rasicm in the US but unfortunately there is, unfortunately it's in every country! The fact that there's never been a "black" president in the USA (the most powerful (wo)man in the world) should say enough.. but anyways it was just something that struck me from that documentary, that he's kind of ignoring the racial issue which wouldn't be a problem in a perfect world but this world isn't exactly perfect....
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Post by kingorseolo on Jan 10, 2008 14:36:16 GMT -6
Well, I know that racism is definitely on the rise in a lot of parts of Northern Europe with the influx of Arab's and African's you are receiving; what with the fears that they will break down the Socialized systems that have been established over there. But for a long time in America, race has become less and less of a dividing factor.
Iowa (Where Barack got his first victory) was a 97% white state. Now there are a lot of older black activist leaders (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) who have made a living playing the politics of race, and they're now freaking out because if Obama wins they will be out of a job. All Barack is saying though is that race needs to become not a political talking point as it has been since the 1960's, but something that everyone regards as being there but not to make a big deal of it. The metaphor of "The elephant in the room" is finally being seen for what it is. Obama's point is that the US has much bigger problems than race and the other issues of the 1960's that have divided the country for so long into red and blue states (Abortion, gun control, gay rights, feminism, and other really minor issues that for the most part America has come to terms with).
If Hillary wins.... I don't know what I'll do. It isn't even that her and Barack disagree on so many issues besides health care (Hillary's policy really scares me on that), it's that she represents an older political elite which has dragged this country down for the last 50 years by engaging in issue politics and trying to divide the electorate. Hillary's strategy is the same George Bush's was 8 years ago: Polarize the voting populace in to red and blue voters, and work only to get those who agree with you out to the polls. Barack has more of a "Big tent" strategy which is what this country needs. Barack has been against the Iraq war since day one, Hillary has been against it since it has been unpopular. Hillary will do anything to get elected, and anyone who has followed the Clinton's since their days in office will know that the are both career politician's and huge fraud's. Hillary is the candidate of corporate lobbyist's and Washington bureaucracy. If we want real change we need a new face, not the mechanized automaton botox injected one of Shillary...
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Post by Zach on Jan 10, 2008 20:00:52 GMT -6
Interesting opinion kingorseolo. I agree with you; this country is too divided! Have a karma!
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Post by darkme on Jan 14, 2008 1:23:13 GMT -6
I always thought the elections were in the start of this year, it's been such a big fuss since a long time so I thought it's gonna be annonced like soon. I was shocked to know the new president will be elected and announced in December or so (correct me if i'm wrong)
well i don't really know much about it but hopefully it'll go well.
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2008 20:13:01 GMT -6
Yep, you're right Noor! Since there are only two major political parties (or groups) in the US, we have primaries first. This makes it easy to narrow down a Republican and Democrat. Then the two finnalists (Demo v.s. Rep) go against each other in the general election, and the winner is then the president of the USA! (Obama hopefully ;D)
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Post by darkme on Jan 24, 2008 3:01:04 GMT -6
Oh, well you're rooting for Obama because he's a democrat right? I just think now is a good time for a change and new leadership to be in the US. Hopefully a better one.
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Post by Zach on Jan 24, 2008 19:55:44 GMT -6
Yes, but I also agree with his message. Well said Noor Karma for you!
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Post by darkme on Jan 25, 2008 15:59:58 GMT -6
Hey thanks Zach!
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Post by SoHuda on Feb 1, 2008 11:34:57 GMT -6
I watched Oprah the other day (probably an old one) she interviewed John Edwards' wife about her cancer and about helping her husband with his campaign.
Then I read that he quited the preisdental race (as they call it) any ideas why?
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Post by harisstavr on Feb 1, 2008 11:50:16 GMT -6
because he understood that he couldn't win?
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Post by Zach on Feb 2, 2008 16:09:36 GMT -6
no. he was in Third place, didnt have enough money, and knew he wasn't going to win. If he endorses another candidate, his supporters will vote for another person (maybe Obama), and he/she would get more votes!
That's basically how it works!
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Post by SoHuda on Feb 3, 2008 11:59:55 GMT -6
ohh now I get it!! and do u mean by "endorsing another candidate" he'll say who he supports?! sorry, if I got it all wrong! ;D and if it is so, did he choose someone, and when he does, his supporters will vote for that person? or anyone they want to vote for?! thanks for explaining, karma 4 you
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Post by Zach on Feb 4, 2008 10:27:50 GMT -6
Yes, he'll say who he supports. I've got no idea, but I'll post more later!
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Post by harisstavr on Feb 4, 2008 13:09:00 GMT -6
Obama lost
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