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Post by AK on Mar 22, 2007 9:44:51 GMT -6
In the era of globalisation and rapid industrialization, we have witnessed (at least in my country India) that agriculture has had to suffer at the cost of industrial development.
The corporates have literally grabbed the lands from poor peasants and farmers for construction of their factories and projects and the poor farmers are left to die.
When lands are acquired for industrialization, the poor villagers and farmers lose their homes and their means of livelihoods.People are displaced from their homes.Thousands of farmer suicides take place in India every year.These farmers and their families aren't even paid the compensation or damages for this loss.Even alternative employment is not provided to them.And even when alternative employment or compensations are provided, they are measly and not enough.
Not only this, the local climate, flora and fauna are also being ruined due to rapid and indiscriminate industrial growth.This has had grave consequences for all citizens, especially the ones in rural areas.
People have forgotten that agriculture too, was an ancient industry only.But now, it is suffering.Industrial development is harming rural development and environment.
On the other hand, if industries are limited or stopped from growing, it would harm the interests of economic growth and isn't practical in this era of globalisation.
So what do you think could or should be done so that industry and agriculture can grow harmoniously without harming each other?
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Post by darkme on Mar 22, 2007 10:51:41 GMT -6
well, as we can't stop development from taking place, we can at least reserve some of the ancient jobs and I think there shud be a balance between development and the traditional things.
like if they want a place to build up a factory or so, they do not neseceraly need to ruin a farm or take away farmers jobs!
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Post by Zach on Mar 22, 2007 13:42:17 GMT -6
Yes, your right. We should balance the new hi-tech jobs with the old fashion intence-labor jobs. Good Thread  |
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Post by AK on Mar 22, 2007 23:17:25 GMT -6
well, as we can't stop development from taking place, we can at least reserve some of the ancient jobs and I think there shud be a balance between development and the traditional things. like if they want a place to build up a factory or so, they do not neseceraly need to ruin a farm or take away farmers jobs! ;D Firstly, thanks for responding.  How should we reserve the ancient jobs? There should be a balance as you and Zach have said, but the question is - how? The reason why farms and forests are ruined is that industries and factories need land.Factories are not constructed near cities, because these are supposed to be "residential areas".But the suburbs, villages and forests perhaps do not fit into the bill of "residential areas". The reasons why industrialists grab the agricultural lands are - 1) there is lots of availability of water (Originally meant for irrigation of lands) which the industries can make use of. 2) The displaced farmers can become cheap sources of labour (The farmers will not have any source of livelihood when their farms are snached by the industries. They are recruited not because the industries are doing a favour, but because the farmers have got no choice whatsoever) 3) There will be plenty of land available for the industries to exploit, without touching the "residential areas". 4) The industries will make use of the cheap power available in the agricultural region. 5) Road connectivity is really good (Originally meant for farmers to transport their produce) Due to all of the above reasons, the industrialists refuse to move to distant lands for setting up their factories and industries.Agricultural and forest lands are more lucrative for them since they are a ready source of cheap raw material and labour. The government usually ignores village development and environment protection as they are paid huge sums of money by these rich industrialists (corruption comes here as well) to give a verdict in their favour. It's the common poor man who suffers.In my country, so many protests and violence have been on due to these reasons only.  BTW, thanks Zach!You people have to actively participate in it, okay? |
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Post by darkme on Mar 23, 2007 5:11:02 GMT -6
well, I understand the reasons but then it's where the gov. role kiks in  I mean seriously the gov. shud at least give those farmers a job if their land is taken and the gov. shud have like sum lands and so they shud have the farmers whose jobs have been taken work there. that's a random thot but that's my idea ;D |
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Post by darkme on Mar 23, 2007 5:13:06 GMT -6
and to answer how can we preserve or keep the ancient jobs:
taking Oman as an example, they have the ministry of cultrue and heirtage so its doing its part and they r offering jobs like farmers and fishermen and encourging ppl to work bcuz those kind of jobs have to be kept!
other than that I have absolutly no idea ;D
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Post by Justin R. Wilkerson on Mar 29, 2007 17:43:54 GMT -6
this is a topic that is very foreign to me i dont know much about the whole balance of Industry and Agriculture, but fom what i have read here, i would say there seems to be a greater need for Federal regulation on things such as this!
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Post by harisstavr on Sept 23, 2007 8:22:21 GMT -6
dark me u r right and I totally agree with you but unfortunately governments don't do anything about farmers. They don't care. They jsut want development of their country to earn more money. |
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Post by mariah on Oct 24, 2007 9:33:18 GMT -6
Its true that the governments aren't much concerned abt agriculture and are more inclined towards helping industries but the industries are there due to the agricultural production.If there's no agriculture there's no industry.I think both of them can survive together if there's a separate area for industries and if these industries cause less pollution which can only be done if the indutrialists and the government mutually agree to it and the industries are provided with proper equipment like filters and flue-ash removers. Nowadays, its impossible to farm without the fertilizers manufactured in industries.Shortage of water is a major prob too as both sectors -primary and secondary, need it and the way water is being polluted it seems difficult. There has to be some solution to it.can't think ofa solid one right now.sigh!
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 24, 2007 11:44:33 GMT -6
I can only speak for what is happening in the USA, but back in the 20's about 40% of americans worked on farms or in agriculture, now we are down to under 3%, because of technology to make it easier for a single individual (or just a handful of people) to work a lot of land, and the genetic technology to make the same size of land produce more food, so less land is needed for food.
But in the USA, agriculture resieves more subsidies than anything else. But I think that for some of the larger countries (large in population, but not in area) are facing space issues that the US doesn't face. And the choices are, agriculture, which doesn't move society foward (but keeps it alive and healthy) or industy, which does move society foward (but doesn't feed people), so those nations try to industralize and buy food from other nations that do have a lot of land.
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How should we reserve the ancient jobs?
I mean seriously the gov. shud at least give those farmers a job if their land is taken and the gov. shud have like sum lands and so they shud have the farmers whose jobs have been taken work there. that's a random thot but that's my idea
