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Post by ViCtoria* on Sept 23, 2007 11:41:00 GMT -6
This is a delicate topic our fine executive director, Zach Komes ( ;D) discusses about in his article on the Viva newsletter: aspire2inspire-viva.blogspot.com/2007/09/freedom-of-speech.htmlSo, to start this topic: Do you believe there should be restrictions to freedom of speech? Should everyone be allowed to say anything they like? Or should we try to maintain respect to some things and not others?
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Post by darkme on Sept 23, 2007 11:50:58 GMT -6
ahhh yes! just have to mention that it was indeed a fine article... gr8 job boss! u make us proud anyways I think it should definitely have restrictions, I am against homosexuals for an example but expressing my opinion shouldn't go too far as to become offensive. I think most of us have heard about the Danish cartoons against our prophet Mohammed, wouldn't you say that went too far?
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Post by Zach on Sept 23, 2007 16:36:55 GMT -6
hehe! well gee thanks guys I do agree with Noor that there should be some restrictions on Free Speech, like that it cannot be hurtful. But, I think we can not put too many rules on the freedom of expression, or it won't be FREE speech after all Karma for you Vic for starting a thread about this!!
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Post by alyssamilanofan on Sept 24, 2007 8:15:41 GMT -6
I don't know I mean often caberetiers and cartoon drawers say something about people which most of the time they don't mean or they mean the opposite I thought the entire outburst about it was kind of over the top, I can't judge about the sentiments but the way they were expressed was ridiculous one man did that not the entire country (I'm not saying the guy who drew the cartoon should've done that and I'm not defending him but the outburst, like the attacks on embassy's and the burning of flagues, was ridiculous).. As Zach said there shouldn't be restrictions on voicing ones opinions BUT try to express it without hurting people's feelings, try to do it without offending people and try do it with respect that's really all you can ask of people...
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Post by harisstavr on Sept 24, 2007 12:54:58 GMT -6
Well I think we should have some ristrictions when we talk for other people. For example in Greece, we are not allowed to laugh at the President of the Hellenic Republic public(an action that we don't do anyway). In other reasons yes...freedom of Speech is needed. Nice sub. Karma!
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Post by Takako on Sept 24, 2007 14:13:04 GMT -6
I think we should have freedom of speech, as long as we respect other people's ideas and convictions. I mean, we can say what we want but we have to accept there are another positions about the same thread, and we are going nowhere if we hurt each other - really, we are just making the discussion useless.
I gotta read the article!
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Post by ViCtoria* on Sept 24, 2007 19:51:26 GMT -6
Thank you for the karmas and also for replying. However,there is one thing I don't quite understand in all of your posts. It indeed is "freedom" of speech we are talking about, right? How could our right to be "free" be restricted in anyways? Wouldn't it be self-contradictory? 'Yes, you can be free but with limits.' Huh, funny thing. I thought it really meant being absolutely free to discuss anything you liked within your social biases and social stereotypes. Wouldn't a real "freedom of speech" occur in an ideal world? Where society had as basis respect for all human beings so, consequently, one would not need to be restricted to certain topics as one would understand when to hold back. And we wouldn't even need to hold back as nothing the other one does or beliefs in could be mocked. Got a bit philosophical here. My apologies . Gtg study History (ugh).
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Post by harisstavr on Sept 25, 2007 12:23:53 GMT -6
hmmm.... really sophisticated....
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Post by alyssamilanofan on Sept 25, 2007 12:42:46 GMT -6
You have a great point Victoria and I agree with you.. As I said we all should have freedom of speech no restrictions the only thing you can ask from another human being is that they will use it without hurting anyones feelings that they will use that freedom, with respect to others.. karma's up for you
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Post by Zach on Sept 25, 2007 18:54:45 GMT -6
Haha that's true. Good point Vic.
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Post by ViCtoria* on Sept 27, 2007 15:32:22 GMT -6
Thanks Jen and Zach! So, well, without thinking about the ideal world we should be living in... What changes should be made to obtain a decent freedom of speech in this present society? Any thoughts about this?
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Post by llVoXll on Oct 28, 2007 12:03:46 GMT -6
Freedom of speech is dangerous....
*bang bang bang*
Noooo cough! *stands up from the heavy shooting from YFCI members* I mean if it is free speech, that means there will be lots of hating and racist messages too! Imagine the next wars, terrorist attacks and murders :S
So..... Speech must be free but restricted to certain topics, IMO
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 29, 2007 11:38:30 GMT -6
Freedom of speech in the USA needs to be more clearly defined, we had a lady mail a box of dog poop to a senetor and claim that her actions were protected by free speech as she was expressing herself and her feeling towards that senetor. The use of words should be free, but some expressions should be defined as not speech. Some of the people in media should be held accountible for what they say and how it effects others, yes. But groups like Media Matters should NOT be the judge, considering how partisain they are and how far left they are.
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Post by darkme on Oct 29, 2007 12:30:05 GMT -6
Freedom of speech is dangerous.... *bang bang bang* Noooo cough! *stands up from the heavy shooting from YFCI members* I mean if it is free speech, that means there will be lots of hating and racist messages too! Imagine the next wars, terrorist attacks and murders :S So..... Speech must be free but restricted to certain topics, IMO You have a point Andy but listen would that be oppressing people, and doing so wud mean big bad results. Like for +30 years Saddam oppressed Iraqis and look at where is Iraq now!!!! people should be free 2 express their opinions, if not how can we be able to preach tolarence if ppl didn't come out with their opinions. being able 2 say what u want doesn't mean that what ur gonna say "have' to be offensive!
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 29, 2007 12:34:21 GMT -6
You're right in that just because you can't say certian racist, sexist, or other bigotry words, doesn't mean that you can't express how you feel. It is very important that people are allowed to say what they feel regardless of how they feel, but it is important to restirct in what manner they can express themselves.
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Post by joshmon80 on Aug 19, 2008 8:16:37 GMT -6
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either.- Mark Twain
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Post by harisstavr on Aug 19, 2008 11:02:42 GMT -6
Well... Freedom of Speech is good, if you don't insult anybody... That's how I understand Freedom of Speech... of course, you can insult politicians and the governments
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Post by qwerty on Jan 24, 2009 23:29:10 GMT -6
You will never truly have freedom of speech without the backup of a strong government of the people operating with an unbending constitution that the judicial system abides by. If you don't have that then you are in harms way... you can only laugh and cry the same as any other human. To be sentenced to jail or death for saying or writing your opinion depends on who bears judgement...even with protected speech there are always people who are willing to kill for their belief. It's up to the people to have liberty and justice for all. A lot of blood is spilled to buy freedom of speech so good luck. Maybe just use the ten commandments. Too simple I guess. New generations can foster new idea's and I have hope for that.
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