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Post by Zach on Dec 26, 2006 12:39:33 GMT -6
Great Point! debate
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Post by AK on Dec 27, 2006 2:10:06 GMT -6
You are absolutely right!!The government in South Asian countries (especially my country India!) comes into power only to steal money!That's why I said the governments don't realise this.And I know that they won't ever realise.If they begin to, then they'll actually have to use the national income and funds for the people of the country and if they do so, then how will they fill their own pockets?? Its definitely the reality! yeah sadly is corruption in governements a big problem , I think if not so many governements would be corrupted in Africa and in the rest of the world we would have been way closer to eraducating poverty, if not poverty would have been already been eraducated. There's a great song made about the US presidents it's called Dear Mr President by Pink I personally love that song! it's really good.. Yes I agree with you Jenny.If it was not for corruption, the situation in Africa and South Asian countries would've been much better.The Government keeps hoarding money and is doing nothing worthwile to make people's lives better.
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Post by AK on Dec 27, 2006 2:18:11 GMT -6
For. For Nuclear Power that is. Not for weapons. Nucelar Power Plants are good for the environment, releasing steam rather than smoke, and can power more than an normal polluting coal plant. I agree with you winmsn.Nuclear power by itself is not wrong.It is the way its being used which is actually wrong.If used for peaceful and useful purposes like generating electricity, its very good and beneficial for all. It is the misuse of nuclear power that's unacceptable.
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Post by darkme on Dec 27, 2006 7:07:11 GMT -6
ok so we all agree that if nuclear was used in a way that produces power then its ok! right? don't u think that Iran has the right to produce power using nuclear?? well, I do! USA doesn't want Iran to have nuclear power bcoz they think that Iran will mis-use it! while the USA itself has nuclear WEAPONS!!! isn't that a big HYPOCIRCY???
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Post by Zach on Dec 27, 2006 10:07:36 GMT -6
Yeah, exactly why I can't stand the leadership here!
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Post by plato123 on Jan 6, 2007 9:21:43 GMT -6
For. For Nuclear Power that is. Not for weapons. Nucelar Power Plants are good for the environment, releasing steam rather than smoke, and can power more than an normal polluting coal plant. You made a point here about nuclear power plant, but nuclear weapon for distruction is against humanity. I wondering what will be for Africa when every inventions has made/ completed;D, I mean after nuclear plant what next??
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Post by Justin R. Wilkerson on Mar 29, 2007 17:48:24 GMT -6
I'm totally against using nuclear weapons coz they coz too much destruction and their damage countinues for decades and they cause horrible dieseases and nuclear weapons not only hurt human beings they also hurt the enviornment. we are talking about power, not wepons LOL, but i agree with you on the topic above though!!
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Post by Justin R. Wilkerson on Mar 29, 2007 17:49:56 GMT -6
I personally support it, MY OPINION i think it is a whole heap site better than coal, and other nasty types of plants, but like i said this would be my personal opinion plz do not take it personally!!
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Post by harisstavr on Sept 22, 2007 10:04:04 GMT -6
Against.... We can find safer, better ways for producing energy like using alternative sources of energy. People always want to create sth new (Nuclear factories). unfortunately, they don't think of using what already exists (Sun,Wind,Water)
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 30, 2007 16:01:58 GMT -6
Even when useing the powers that are already in existance, you still have to build the plants to capture the power and turn it into something useful (like electricity), Solar is a lot more expensive than nuclear (about 4 times for the same amount of energy).
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Post by harisstavr on Oct 31, 2007 7:11:28 GMT -6
why do you think only the expenses? Why don't you think the benefits? When we hasve nuclear factories, then we are afraid of the nuclear energy, do you remember what happened to Chernobill? Was that good? Do you know that nowadays people in Japan and Ukraine suffer from cancer because of the radiation? Do you know that children die because of the radiation? And that's because of a mistake. And what about future generations? Your grand-grand children will have some nuclear waste under their seas.... Nuclear waste that are going to be "safe" after millions of years... Is that the benefit of the nuclear energy?
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 31, 2007 9:56:22 GMT -6
why do you think only the expenses? Why don't you think the benefits? When we hasve nuclear factories, then we are afraid of the nuclear energy, do you remember what happened to Chernobill? Was that good? Do you know that nowadays people in Japan and Ukraine suffer from cancer because of the radiation? Do you know that children die because of the radiation? And that's because of a mistake. And what about future generations? Your grand-grand children will have some nuclear waste under their seas.... Nuclear waste that are going to be "safe" after millions of years... Is that the benefit of the nuclear energy? Chernobyl, yes I know of it very well, I contiunually speak with a survioror of Chernobyl, he was 3 years old living in Russia at the time, the cloud of radioactive dust missed his house by only several miles. More people die from the radiation from the sun, than from radiation caused by nuclear waste. In nuclear powerplants, most of the nuclear waste can be recycled and reused. The extra nuclear waste isn't just dumped into the sea, it buried under mountains where the radiation can't hurt anyone. I do look at the benefits, I look at both the benefits and the concequences to make an informed decision on what is the best solution.
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 31, 2007 10:40:17 GMT -6
Solar is expensive and takes up a lot of land, but it does produces a large amount of energy and is growing rapidly in efficentcy, which is why we should wait on it. It's like cell phones, every year they make way better ones. Every year we getter better solar power, so why commit now and spend hundreds of billions of dollars, when it is going to be outdated in the next few years.
Wind is great and clean, it is cheap, but it doesn't provide a good continual power source and isn't powerful enough to be a major contender (tops out at about 10%), but it should still be used to its full potential. We just need to realize that we need to keep looking for more than just this.
Nuclear has waste and risk. It is also rather exspensive (around $6 billion for a 500 MW plant) to build and they only last around 50 or so years. The incident that happened at Chernobyl was a horrible event, but the Russian took many risks and ignored many safty features to compete and so it cost them. But safty now compared to 30 years ago in nuclear power is vastly improved.
There are other power sources but I have to go right now.
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Post by harisstavr on Oct 31, 2007 14:07:55 GMT -6
I understand... but I am sure you know that all countries aren't as rich as the U.S. For example countries like Romania or other balkan ones, can't be sure about the safety metres of their factories, because they don't have the money to do that. I understand that we should wait for evolution, but I don't understand the reason of building more nuclear factories.
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Post by oregonelephant on Oct 31, 2007 14:55:08 GMT -6
I understand... but I am sure you know that all countries aren't as rich as the U.S. For example countries like Romania or other balkan ones, can't be sure about the safety metres of their factories, because they don't have the money to do that. I understand that we should wait for evolution, but I don't understand the reason of building more nuclear factories. I see how that is a concern for other countries. I feel that the best way to go through this, that it would be best for more developed countries (Western Europe, USA, Australia...) should more away from oil and coal. Thus causing the value of oil and coal to drop drastically. Than the poorer countries can afford a cheap power to get them on their feet so they can catch up. Oil (altough bad for the enviroment) is a step towards solar and hydro and geothermal and nuclear. I would rather let them burn oil and emitt green house gases, than to have them sit at the bottom and tell them that they can't use oil to fight poverty and give the entire country hope of a better tomorrow.
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Post by harisstavr on Nov 1, 2007 9:14:12 GMT -6
It's not so simple. Of course poorer countries need to burn Oil, but if they invest into alnternative energy sources, then they will be energetically independent, sth very important for them. Why do they have to use so much Oil, when they can use solar energy and wind energy!!! For example, in my country, which is not as much developed as other ones, we could invest in Solar Energy and in Wind energy,than "bitting our nails" all the time, because of the price of the Oil. ...
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Post by oregonelephant on Nov 1, 2007 9:59:27 GMT -6
Yes at the time, Oil prices are a nightmare. But, should most of Western Europe and the USA switch from oil to alt energy, the price of oil will drop severly (causeing issues with Russia and the Middle east, but we shouldn't condem our planet or our own country so they can thrive). Solar is much more expensive than oil. I was refering to poor countries like Central and Western Africa, and SE Asia, where their money won't buy hardly any solar, but it will buy a good deal of oil. Then they can build their economy and country, and then switch from oil to alt energy.
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Post by harisstavr on Nov 1, 2007 11:04:25 GMT -6
I agree with you. I just say that countries like Greece,Italy,Spain,France should use their bnefit from the sun and from the windy areas.
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Post by oregonelephant on Nov 12, 2007 9:57:59 GMT -6
Of course, any country with the means to step away from oil should do its best to make that step, or at least as much of that step as it can. That would cause the price of oil to drop, allowing poorer countries to get more power and, in turn, help to fight poverty and hunger around the world. It does so much more than just clean the air.
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Post by harisstavr on Nov 12, 2007 13:52:53 GMT -6
Exactly!
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