Homosexuality -All subtopics included

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oregonelephant said:

A 3rd Gender? It is a sexuality. If you're Gay, you're still a man. If you're Lesbian, you're still a woman. Anyone who has you're not a man or woman because of you're sexuality, is hateful and fearful.

Nice one! Karmazup!

[waed89]

lapikiorejuda said:

Of course we don't know about many homosexuals that belong to older age groups, because they belong to very older generations where they couldn't even talk about the subject and repressed any feelings of same-sex love... Fortunately, our generations are being more open and expressing how they REALLY feel.
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There were always homosexuals! since the dawn of time ** u hate history so I'll spare u the historic view of homosexuality or shall I say sodomy since I am being historic ?**
If society wasn't as free and "" democratic"" as now this doesn't mean that minorities such as homosexuals didn't exist! And if being gay or lesbian is a natural thing as u say then whoever is gay will continue to be gay and we will find ones who are old and gay : P
I take Noor's stand when it comes to homosexuality , I do not think it is a natural thing ** I never heard of animals doing it* but nevertheless I do not think we should discriminate them or treat them differently because of their sexual orientation

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Maybe it'd be nice to look at this vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISBeBuVKXL0

(Warning: the vid shows a strong situation and cruel reality)

perhaps this is the extreme of accepted homosexuality but anyway wanna see how tolerant u are with it?

This vid is amazing and cute =) the story says it was taken by a cinema director to show how even the 'homos' and 'sick people' can perform beautiful stuff, although it has received highly negative critiques because the character is a homosexual . It was taken in 1998 under the name 'Godess Bunny'

btw i should have taken a photo of two randoms dogs having intercourse but i'm not into porno stuff :S anyway just look at the dogs in ur neighbourhood when they're having fun and there it is

EDIT: Forgot to put warning

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waed89 said:

lapikiorejuda said:

Of course we don't know about many homosexuals that belong to older age groups, because they belong to very older generations where they couldn't even talk about the subject and repressed any feelings of same-sex love... Fortunately, our generations are being more open and expressing how they REALLY feel.
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There were always homosexuals! since the dawn of time ** u hate history so I'll spare u the historic view of homosexuality or shall I say sodomy since I am being historic ?**
If society wasn't as free and "" democratic"" as now this doesn't mean that minorities such as homosexuals didn't exist! And if being gay or lesbian is a natural thing as u say then whoever is gay will continue to be gay and we will find ones who are old and gay : P
I take Noor's stand when it comes to homosexuality , I do not think it is a natural thing ** I never heard of animals doing it* but nevertheless I do not think we should discriminate them or treat them differently because of their sexual orientation

Li li li, Waed I think you misunderstood me . I am pro homosexual! As an example of what I stated earlier, let's say it's 1950 and a man in my country is fond of a male co-worker. He sees him every night but cannot tell anybody about their relationship because it is not socially accepted, maybe even a sin according to his religion. Now, if the same man (maybe from countries such as the US or the UK) is fond of a male co-worker, he can maintain a public relationship with him. Maybe for most it would be 'wrong', but it is not illegal and nobody can stop them. Before they had to play a constant 'hide and seek' game, but now in some countries at least, they do not have to.

Actually there are animals that display homosexual behaviour, here it is, a link from Wikipedia the Bible : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Andrea I loved the video . It was a bit creepy (not because he is a homosexual, but because of his physical characteristics.. ok not his make up or clothes, the way he walks!.. *sigh, hope someone understands*), lol, but the person is an excellent tap dancer.

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I totally understand this Victoria! It freaked me out! I felt this person was gonna collapse and fall dead infront of me and not because he is gay or anything! Talent has nothing to do with sex

[kingorseolo]

-Yes, these marriages should be allowed because, according to the Civil Rights Act, everybody has the same right as everybody to do as we please. We all have the right to get married.

Another thing, to whoever started this topic. I think bringing up the Civil Rights act is not intellectually consistent. The Civil Rights act of 1964 had almost solely to do with black American's, who at the time were denied voter registration rights, access to certain hotels, motels, restraunts, theaters and other public facilities such as schools and bathrooms. Gays have never been denied access to any of these staples of a good country. So trying to compare the Gay Rights movement of today to the Black rights movement of trhe 60's in an insult to those blacks who were attacked by dogs and sprayed down by fire hoses. Growing up in the South, I can say that the racism that still exists down there is still 10 times worse than anything gays have to face today. I am insulted when I hear gay rights advocates likening their cause to the black rights cause, and if I was black would be very upset about the comparisons.

Thanks for reading folk.

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btw i should have taken a photo of two randoms dogs having intercourse but i'm not into porno stuff :S


Wha? You're not into watching two dogs have intercourse with eachother?! Well aren't you an odd duck. In America you would be an outkaust.



Hello, this is God talking. Joking. Sooner or later, I had to post this thread here in YFCI . It is a necessity, I must say, and no, I am not gay. So here are the first questions that could spice up this ongoing, never ending, full of nonsense, tense debate


Whattup G-d. Thanks for the IHome for Christmas and the gift certificate to Nike Town. I owe you a couple of Hail Mary's, I know.

On the real, I hate seeing these topics get into position bashing and personal attacks, and I've seen it happen on many forums. Thankfully this doesn't look like one of them.

Do you think homosexuality is natural or unnatural? Why / Why not?

Instead of this, I would have asked;Is homosexuality determined by nature or nurture. That is, is one born with homosexual desires ready to explode when they hit puberty, or does one become homosexual through how they were raised or lifestyle choices they had. Either way, the question is pretty irrelevant to me. Whether your born gay or become gay through how your parents raise you, it still isn't your call to be gay. There are a lot of gay people in this world, so for someone try and call it unnatural makes no sense. If you are terrestrial, meaning of the Earth, then as a Libertarian I absolutely reject anyone calling anyone's lifestyle unnatural/ Such was the tactic of the Nazi's against their scapegoats.

Would you allow homosexual civil marriages in today's or future day's society?

Assuming I was president of my country, would I allow civil marriages? Sure. I don't care either way which two people want to get married. If a man wants to marry a dog (d**nit Vox!) I would be totally fine with that do, because it would not be my position as government leader to interfere with another person's life in so far as they don't interfere with mine or anyone elses.

Remember though, I said if I was president I also said that if someone wants to go into their backyard and hold a marriage ceremony with friends between them and their girlfriend/girlfriends/horse/horses then I wouldn't stop that either if I were president.

But here, you get into what marriage actually means, and really it is just an abstract concept thought up to be the building blocks of society for thousands of years. The only tangible thing that one gets out of marriage is a tax break from the government. So, like I said, if I were president I would completely allow all marriage ceremonies to go down regardless of religion, but if it came to a man marrying another man, a woman marrying a woman, or a man marrying and animal; I would not give them a tax breaks or any recognition from the government that they are actually married. What is the reason for this, if as I said above, homosexuality is basically natural? Well, homosexual's can't have kids. And if they can't have kids, what are they giving back to society and why do they deserve to pay less taxes than anyone else?

Marriages between any two things (Inanimate objects included) are fine by me. But if you don't have a baby maker in the relationship, then don't expect President Orseolo to cut you any tax breaks!

Do you think it is alright for a homosexual couple to adopt a kid or have a kid and raise him or her?

Do you think it is alright for a homosexual couple to adopt a kid or have a kid and raise him or her?

You're a smart girl to have asked this question, because usually it is a follow up question most people ask when they hear my position as outlined above. "Orseolo", they ask, "You say gays shouldn't get any tax breaks from marriage because they can't help society by having kids, but what if they adopt them? Then should they get tax breaks and recognition from the government?"

Usually this is where I bite my tongue and squirm around nervously while starting to cry. No, just kidding, but it is a tough question no doubt. Morally, I don't think gays or lesbians should be allowed to raise a kid, since it makes sense that a child needs to be rendered by a man and a woman. Buuuttttt..... With so many children being abandoned for adoption, it seems rather cruel that they should be made to spend their lives in orphanages, when their are thousands of completely normal, happy, gay couples that would like to raise a child. So in the end, I would probably allow gays to adopt kids, and thus get a tax break, but I would leave it up for the States to decide (Provinces for all you crazy non-Americans) because all government should be local instead of federal. Government out of mine and everyone else's life!

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kingorseolo said:

btw i should have taken a photo of two randoms dogs having intercourse but i'm not into porno stuff :S


Wha? You're not into watching two dogs have intercourse with eachother?! Well aren't you an odd duck. In America you would be an outkaust.

Wha O.o You're evil!

anyway i dun think the kid cares if he has two mothers or two fathers if those two give him enough love.

The problem arises when one of them denies the child.